Dainel, head of protocol at Bluesky, has published a series of leaflets on permissioned data for atproto.
The first post introduces what permission data actually is - "a broad term, it covers many different social modalities & data flows. In its most basic sense, it means “not public”... data that lives on your PDS but isn't broadcasted... only accessible to users and services ... explicitly granted permission." - and gives examples, from Facebook groups to DMs, which are "the clear outlier", as all now use E2EE.
The rest of this post explains why Bluesky is not: " The threat models are different... Apps need to see the data... E2EE is hard... scaling issues". Moreover, "Permissioned data and E2EE" don't compete, "they operate at different layers:
The second post introduces Buckets to achieve their goal of making "Permissioned data ... feel like a natural extension of how public data already works in atproto."
There are four basic environment types, in increasing order of complexity:
He then explores different solutions, starting with:
We need "a way to say: “Here’s a space. Here’s who has access to it. Everything in this space inherits that access”. We need a bucket... container that holds records and has a single authoritative ACL... When you post into a bucket, your post inherits the ACL".
It's not necessarily a "colocated" folder on someone's PDS: like a Bluesky thread, it could have its "contents distributed across members’ PDSes" ("partitioned").
Post 2 ends with a lot of unanswered questions, bringing us to Post 3, which compares colocated and partitioned approaches. Colocated seems simpler but it is too much like a Mastodon instance.
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